Girls read boys’ comics, and they’re oblivious.

Hey, kids, it’s me, Betty, your friendly neighbourhood forum moderator and web-mistress. Karen’s still on vacation, so this week I am your guest columnist! Due to circumstances that may or may not have involved the dog eating my homework, this column is a little late: please forgive me.
I can’t remember the first comic I read. I don’t think I noticed that comic books were any different than the picture books I picked up when I first learnt to read. It may have been a free Spider-man comic handed out by the police at the mall with a message about staying drug-free. It may have been a collection of rebound Prince Valiant that the library kept on an accessible lower shelf. But odds are very good it was actually either (a translation of) Asterix, or Tintin.
I won’t claim these were my favourite books to read; I’d certainly read any and all available, but that was my approach to any kind of written literature from the moment I learnt to read. But I did read and enjoy them, so I was somewhat surprised when some forum users pointed out that there are no female characters in Tintin who are of Tintin’s age.
In fact, upon reading this, I was seized by a sudden fear that there were no female characters. I wasn’t sure I could remember any. So I went to the library* and took out their entire selection of Tintin books: all two of them.
As a result of this randomized selection process, I borrowed ‘The Red Sea Sharks’ and ‘The Black Island,’ both of which I dimly remember reading in my youth. (What I did not remember was the racist caricatures on display in ‘The Red Sea Sharks.’ I don’t feel equal to going into it in the depth it deserves, but for now let me say that Herge seems to have a very clear melanin based hierarchy of character, where more melanin means less courage, wits, and dignity. I read this as a child?)
Regarding appearances by women, however, which had been my purpose in this project, I am happy to report there are several! In ‘The Red Sea Sharks’ there are possibly as many as twelve distinct women appearing in twenty-five panels, and in ‘The Black Island’ there are eight women, nine if I count a hat as a woman, in fifteen panels. Out of a total 122 pages.
And if I demand speaking roles,** my numbers go down. I haven’t counted Tintin’s concussions, but I’m confident in claiming that Tintin receives more comical blows to the head in The Black Island than there are women in appearing in both volumes together. Need I mention that Bechdel’s law is not a pass?
I begin to feel something other than nausea at the prospect of the romantic subplot that will almost inevitably be shoehorned into the Tintin movie (since apparently viewers need a comfortably formulaic plot, and there’s always a side-romance.) Either we’ll get a queer romance or an additional woman, and either way it’s a win.
As it is, I can’t think of a female character in Tintin that isn’t there for comic relief, or in a crowd scene, barely visible. When I was a child, I read myself into this story, but always as Tintin, never as any of the women. There were no women for me to be. I don’t know if quantum-Betty in the universe next-door, the one who read the version of Tintin that had plenty of well rounded female characters, is happier or better off, but I’m jealous of her all the same.
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  • For some reason, my library had all Tintin books filed under ‘Juvenile non-fiction.’ I imagine this may confuse some young readers, not to mention causing them some difficulties in geography.
    ** And if I’m counting speaking roles, is this a speaking role or not? Can anyone tell me if that’s actual written Arabic or a parody? I’m very embarrassed to confess, I can’t tell.

Fantasy Land

This week’s guest columnist is Ami Angelwings, the blogger behind Heavenly Comic Reviews and Super Cute Rants of DOOM. Ami is a 25 year old Asian girl in Toronto and she likes really likes Supergirl.
Hi 🙂
I’m really tired. I just… had absolutely no idea what to write for this guest column. 🙁
I have some things I want to say but I just fear I won’t be able to express them properly. :\
I’ll try tho!
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Kk. This is something I think most of us feel or at least get the feeling of, whether consciously or subconsciously, and I kinda wanted to talk about it.
It’s the sexual fetishization of female superheroes. I’m not talking about ‘omgsheshotohnoezcalloutthefeminists’! I’m talking about how superheroines as a concept appears to be a common male sexual fantasy, like the sexy nurse, or the french maid.
Specifically, I notice that female superheroes in bondage, being depowered, or submitting to evil, is a genre in itself.
In many comic blogs, authors tend to note that they get a lot of weird google searches that lead people to their site, especially ones about supergirl being raped, or tied up, or something. I know I do. In fact that appears to be a good chunk of my search engine traffic! XD It seems like every day somebody runs into my blog looking for pictures of Supergirl in bondage or naked or in torn clothing or something.
In fact there are whole sites devoted to this genre. There are videos and stories and of course pictures (which I dun feel I need to link to, b/c they’d immediately be NSFW without a warning).
You’d think that a site called ‘hero-girl’ or ‘superheroinecentral’ would be something like girl-wonder wouldn’t you XD
My point isn’t that men shouldn’t have sexual fantasies or that this stuff is bad or whatever. My point is that it EXISTS and that superheroine outfits have become a sexual fetish costume for many men like the french maid outfit or the sexy nurse outfit. :\
My point is that something that should exemplify POWER and STRENGTH for women is instead just another kinky fetish costume for men. 🙁 And the worst part of it is that while a male stripper version of Batman or Superman would prolly have to modify the costume greatly (cape but not tights for instance or mebbe just the briefs). Not much actually has to be done (or even IS done) for female costumes. Which says a lot about the ‘original’ costumes to begin with. :\
In fact, it could be argued that very often the female costumes (of Supergirl and the female Green Lanterns for instance) are just hyper sexualized versions of the male costume. Something that you’d see a stripper using the Superman or Green Lantern motif use for instance. Which is again depressing. 🙁
But that’s not what I really wanted to focus on. What I wanted to talk about is that not only is there apparently a demand for sexy women in superhero costumes but that there’s a demand for them to be humiliated, defeated, de-powered and often raped.
Just look at the common theme in many of the sites there. Many aren’t even trademarked characters. So it’s not just about fantasizing about Supergirl. It’s the IDEA OF SUPERHEROINES BEING DEFEATED that is a turn on for some men. In fact it seems like the idea of a woman in power being brought down is a common fantasy for many men. Their bosses, or teachers, or feminists, or policewomen, etc… It does seem to manifest itself in many erotic fantasies.
Which isn’t necessarily bad. We all have sexual fantasies right? XD And opposite concepts often make for delicious fantasies. The good school girl being a bad, bad girl, the sexy nun, etc etc…
But isn’t it odd that these things, depowering, humiliating defeat, rape, captivity, torn costumes, stripper versions of superhero costumes, etc happen in MAINSTREAM REGULAR comics?
THIS isn’t porn. THIS isn’t some fetish website for superheroines in bondage enthusiasts. This is DC and Marvel.
This is stuff people complain about a lot and we all wonder where it comes from, whether it’s deliberate, and whether it’s different between men and women.
Well… it definitely is different. And it’s very creepy how close legitimate comic book scenes of female superheroes in peril mimic what’s on those sites.
Which leads me to a thought; male superheroes are for men. Female superheroes are also for men, apparently. And not only are they often treated as just there for male consumption, but also it seems that the idea of depowering and defeating and humiliating them is a turn on for some men or at the very least some sort of ‘balancing of the scales’ in their mind.
Why IS the idea of superheroines being defeated or brought down so erotic? Is it the idea that powerful women are an abnormality and should be fixed? Or is it the thrill of ‘defeating’ somebody who fights back, somebody who resists and must be broken? If this is so then superheroines definitely beat policewomen and teachers and bosses in that category.
Who is more powerful than a Wonder Woman or a Supergirl? And who is more unattainable than they are?
Is it an extension of wishing to rescue or humiliate or bring down the popular girl in school that you want but who ignores you?
Are artists and writers and fans seeing female superheroes not as avatars for the strong brave woman inside every girl but more as a way for them to live out their own fantasies where they can save the strong superwoman, or watch as she lays defeated?
Is it comforting for men to feel that no matter how powerful a woman is she can be brought down, or that deep inside they are the same as any other woman? Or that there’s an inner slut inside all of us?
Is that a reason that when a superheroine turns evil she dresses in black and starts wearing less and often is very hyper sexualized?
I dunno :O
I’m not a guy. I’m certainly not the guys who visit those sites XD And honestly I can’t say how mainstream they are, but certainly there are parallels which makes me ask questions.
But I think it’s important to ask those questions and not dismiss things out of hand. I think it’s important to look at the sexualization of women in comics and realize that it’s not the same as how men are and aren’t sexualized in comics. I think it’s important just to examine these topics and discuss them. 🙂
This is why I’m often suspicious of new superheroines, because sometimes, especially with the old bad girl comics of the 90s, it seems that while women are the ‘main characters’, they aren’t there to empower anybody and they’re not even there because the creators like women as their heroes, but because the writers and artists just prefer looking at hot girls in skimpy outfits as their work. And it’s just so much more fun. Like guys who make women characters wearing NOTHING in City of Heroes because it’s just way more fun for them to see a wiggling thonged backside when they adventure.
That’s not empowerment and let’s not pretend it is.
Remember when all of the Wildstorm universe got the gender switch and all the men turned into women? I’m sure the artists weren’t complaining one iota about having to draw even more balloon topped, wasp waisted women.
Why is it that almost every adult superheroine costume comes with gogo boots and often some sort of edit that makes them even more revealing than usual?
The cape is a sign of power for men, it’s a french maid’s skirt for women.
The S is a symbol of truth, justice and the American way for men, but it seems if you put it on a woman it just makes her ‘hotter’ for men, like ‘OMG SHE’S A SUPERHERO, SO HAWTTTT’.
And what’s worse than that is that this sexualization of superheroines doesn’t seem to revolve around them as some sort of goddesses to be worshipped (though that would also be annoying) but as obstacles to be brought down.
There are people paying for videos and pictures of women in superhero costumes being raped and tortured and depowered and stripped and having their clothing ripped apart. And it’s hard to not see the similarities between that and covers and panels of superheroines in the same situations, hurt and having the costume around their hips and waist and chest torn apart, wearing heels to fight, being captured and tied up in sexually provocative positions, being knocked unconscious in ways that accentuate their curves.
So maybe there IS a market for this stuff after all. Maybe some of the people buying these comics really do enjoy watching heroines get raped and beaten and humilating and tied up and bloody and dying.
I have no idea.
But superheroes mean a lot to me. A LOT. Supergirl means to me as much as Superman means to the guys at Superman Homepage.
She’s a symbol and an inspiration.
Female superheroes, their costumes, their insignia, their capes and tights and strengths and weaknesses, should be iconic, powerful images that bring us hope and spur on our imaginations, not just for what feats they might be able to accomplish, but for what feats WE can as well.
To have them reduced to a sexual fetish for men is demeaning. To have female halloween costumes be on par with the sexy nurse and sexy witch (srsly why is every costume a sexy [insert profession here]?) and have gogo boots be apparently mandatory is insulting.
And to have to wonder if our heroes are being treated so badly in their stories because some men are taking pleasure out of breaking our symbols down?
That’s unfair.
I’m not claiming to have all the answers. :\ But I wanted to write about this because it’s been on my mind and it is a feeling I get from comics and from some comic fans (especially some male fans I’ve hung around in school).
I’m hoping to spur on discussion about this though or at least just some thinking in general. 🙂 I think questions are never a bad thing 😀
I think writers and artists, critics and editors, everybody thinking about this and other issues about comics and women in comics cannot be a bad thing, whether they agree or disagree or find another way of looking at it altogether. 🙂 With more awareness will hopefully come change. Change in the way characters are written, change in how they’re drawn, and maybe an understanding that women read comics as well and that we see ourselves in our heroines, and they are not just sexual objects to be posed and degraded for male pleasure.
But ultimately I just wanted to say what was on my mind. 😀
And now I must sleep. XD
I’m a girl. I read comics too.
I’m not pissed, but I am worried. 😮
But also hopeful 🙂
Good night. :3


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Less Than Charming

What’s quickfire week without a Fables note or two?
1001 Nights of Snowfall is a rather interesting take on the 1001 nights. Basically, Snow White goes to Baghdad to convince the Sultan to join the European Fables’ resistance to the Adversary’s forces, but some wires are unfortunately crossed. The Sultan, convinced of the inherent perfidy and unfaithfulness of women, is marrying virgin women, bedding them, and then executing them the next day.
Snow’s only hope for survival is to tell him stories so fascinating that he will put off the execution so as to hear another the next night.
You may recognize the format. More on that later.
Snow’s first tale concerns Snow White herself, and the murderous revenge she takes on the seven dwarfs who imprisoned and apparently raped her before her marriage to Prince Charming*.
What irritates me here is that while Snow is nominally telling the story, it’s actually presented from the point of view of her former husband. We see Snow take steps towards her vengeance fencing lessons, long rides in the country but her revenge is discussed in terms of its implications for the prince. The whole affair is characterized as a political nightmare that threatens the peace between the kingdom of the dwarfs and that of men. Charming is put to some trouble to prevent a war, and annoyed that he’s been ‘played for a fool’.
Afterwards, Snow tells the Sultan:
[H]er husband never quite trusted her again. One version of the story has it that their marriage ended when he slept with the princess’s sister. … But wiser listeners might conclude that the marriage really ended on the day she set out to become a destroyer.
On the surface, this is meant to be a caution against revenge such as the one the Sultan intends to take on Snow and thus exactly the sort of thing a clever woman might say to ward off her own death. But because it’s heavily implied that Snow White was raped, an unfortunate side-effect is to provide us with yet another story where it’s all about the effect the rape of a woman and its aftermath have upon a guy.
I find that less than charming.


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  • All we see of the ceremony is Snow promising to love, honour and obey which is again anachronistic. At first, given the difficulty I had with those vows in her later wedding to Bigby, I was relieved that at least these words are apparently just a formality. However, later she affirms that she really has sworn to obey Charming all things (save telling him the secrets of her past). On reflection, that makes her later vows even more scary for me, since making such oaths to Prince Charming turned out so very badly. Bigby is, while a former mass-murderer, unquestionably much nicer to Snow than Charming is, but that kind of sworn obedience is a terrible thing to grant any romantic partner.

Proverbially Punished.

Alas, how true it is that one should not judge a comic by its cover.
For example, look at this Illuminati #4 cover:
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You might think that the contents would concern the badass adventures of five badass Marvel women: Lilandra, Majestrix of the Shi’ar Empire; Susan Storm-Richards of the Fantastic Four; Clea, ruler of the Dark Dimension; Medusa, Queen of the Inhumans and… someone I immediately nicknamed Iron Woman, who actually turns out to be called Madam Masque.
My shocking ignorance aside, the point is, this cover is badass! No sexualized posing involved, just five women, armed and dangerous, staring you down. Only a hint of nipple – through plate armour, no less – diminishes the otherwise non-objectified awesome of this cover.
‘Yay! Clea!’ said I, and bought it without looking inside.
Oh, how foolish am I.
Inside the comic, with the exception of one page for Sue, the women do not actually appear. Instead, the men who love/loved/had sex with them complain about how women don’t understand that they need to work all the time and how you can never give enough of yourself to a woman to satisfy her and that women would rather rule the Dark Dimension than be married to them but that at least if you’re married you get sex on tap.
Amidst all this whining about how women done them wrong by wanting to be autonomous beings with their own needs and desires instead of ever-available helpmeets, the only good advice is given by Namor:
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Yes. NAMOR.
Anyway. As everyone knows, if C = Cover, c = contents and bW = badass women, one can thereby calculate the overall Awesome Index of any given comic. So for this one, we get:
C(bW) + c(-bW) = -AI
Science is on my side: Illuminati #4 is negative awesome.
P.S. Dear Doctor Strange,
You are my imaginary Marvel boyfriend, but I would also rather rule the Dark Dimension than be married to you. Being married to you, however nice it might be, is not an occupation. Moreover, it would be terribly irresponsible to get hitched instead of righteously kicking the crap out of demons.
With love,
Karen.

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Flocks Of Ninja, To The Right.

This has nothing to do with women in comics, but it did irritate the fuck out of me, and it’s quickfire week, so!
The otherwise enjoyable New Avengers #31 has Wolverine shouting at a bunch of ninja: ‘[They’ll follow us] all the way! Ain’t that right, guys? それは右でないか。’
Now, that’s pretty much incomprehensible flavour text unless you can read even a very little Japanese. But if you can, you realize that ‘Sore wa migi denai ka’ is an extremely literal translation of the English ‘isn’t that right?’ where ‘right’ refers to the direction.
Wolverine is asking hordes of ninja if that way is the right! Like he’s somehow confused! With a far too polite form of the question participle! And a missing syllable! Wolverine the fucking samurai who is supposed to speak fluent Japanese! Shutupshutupshutup.
There are a lot of ways to ask if something is correct or whether you agree with the previous statement in Japanese, some of which would also handily mark gender, social class and regional dialect. You know, much like English. But if you want to use them, you actually have to put in the fucking research.
Don’t ask me for the right answer, because I’d say ‘Jarou?’ which is Bingo-ben, and thus more suitable for interrogating yakuza than ninja. However! I’m not writing the damn comic.
In conclusion: Altavista Babelfish is not an actual babelfish. If you want to use languages other than English – and I applaud this in theory! – get it right or {{do this.}}*
*Translated from the Finnish!

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Benes' Dinah

Editor’s note: This post uses many illustrative images. In most cases, a larger version is linked to the thumbnailed image.
FrancineOne of my favorite comic books to reread is Strangers in Paradise, which was not the comic book that got me into superhero comics, nor the comic book that got me into comics in general. Every time I reread it, it makes me — as a representative of the average American female’s body type — feel beautiful.
HungryThe reason for this, as best I can tell, is that Terry Moore, the artist, loves the way women look. One of the major characters is drawn and described constantly as both beautiful and overweight; a minor subplot focuses on a string bikini she once wore and pictures of her in it while she was the same rounded person she is in the rest of the story. He draws women affected by gravity, in all sorts of outfits and lack thereof, and manages to keep even the mostly naked scenes from feeling gratuitous.
Not only do the women have normal proportions, but they take up emotional space on the page. They are never there simply to be curvy background noise. When they are sexy, they know it; when they are posing, they know it, and they have feelings about it that show on their faces and in their postures.
Maguire’s Powergirl 2Moore’s realistic-proportioned women are not the only ones who succeed for me, however; far be it from me to suggest that all superheroes should be replaced by realism. The quintessentially unrealistic Power Girl as drawn by Kevin Maguire also has many of the same qualities. In the JLA Confidential arc ‘I Can’t Believe It’s Not the Justice League,’ she shares page space with the non-super Sue Dibny, and both are characters with whom I can identify.
Maguire’s PowergirlThe major draw of Maguire’s Power Girl is her ability to have facial expressions that express subtle humor. Her chest is an exclamation point — he does not minimize it, nor its amusement and titillation potential — but he makes it clear that behind and above her monumental bosom, there is a person who exists for more reasons than to have her breasts observed. Some of this is due to the text he is given to work with, but more comes from his evident study of expressions.
Maguire and Moore’s work is relatively realistic, as comics penciling goes, but realism per se is not required to have women who look like women. Darwyn Cooke’s Wonder Woman and Catwoman are heavily stylized, with thick lines, hourglass figures, and a more cartoon feel to the art in general. This does not keep them from being expressive and emotionally present because Cooke gives their faces something to do other than be beautiful. They are idealized women — Wonder Woman in a stocky, Rosie the Riveter way that harkens back to her original designs, Catwoman in a forties pinup manner — but they are women who must carry part of the plot by emoting, feeling, and reacting to the things around them.
Scott’s Batgirl and SpoilerScott’s BatgirlEven more stylized than Cooke’s art in some respects is Damion Scott’s, one of the major artists for the now canceled Batgirl title and penciler for the arc in which Stephanie Brown is Robin. His work is highly kinetic and he is unafraid to play with perspective and proportion when drawing men or women to attain his visual goals. When he drew Batgirl, he was working with a character whose main method of communication and understanding the world depended on movement, and whose costume covered her entire face. This gave him the chance to use his action drawing skills to their fullest in order to show the reader what his protagonist thought and felt. A setting that might have hampered an artist who relied on expressions was one in which he excelled.
When discussions of cheesecake art in women-centered storytelling come up, Ed Benes, previous artist on Birds of Prey and Supergirl, is often mentioned. This is due to his frequent use of frames that exclude women’s faces while focusing on their hips, buttocks, or breasts, which are constantly idealized. However, there are many instances in which he does draw faces, and when he does, the women become functional characters instead of ornaments to the page. They think, they feel, and they respond substantively to what happens around them. Their faces — and, particularly in Benes’ case, the faces of the men around them — are significantly prettier than the average, just as their bodies are idealized, but they are clearly individuals, not wallpaper.
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In a medium where the visuals are inseparable from the storytelling, the use of expression and posture to tell a story is invaluable. The creators I have mentioned are notable for their ability to use the medium well with the tools they have developed, whether or not they consistently use that ability. Artists who portray female characters as dolls and do not learn to portray them with a sense of depth are far too common, and, unfortunately, they often receive kudos for their empty drawings. It is a shame that so many have discarded the chance to tell full stories about both men and women, and we as fans should celebrate the creators who care enough to do things properly. Perhaps then we can convince people with creative control over the properties we so enjoy to hire those who can use the full spectrum of emotion more often.

Interview: DevilDoll

Before DevilDoll gained internet-notoriety by posting a sarcastic link to Sideshow’s Mary Jane Comiquette, I knew her as someone who regularly posted quirky, often comic related links to things I hadn’t seen. When I judged enough time had gone by that she’d recovered from the experience, I asked her for an interview about it, which she granted, and then took on a demanding volunteer position and broke her ankle. (I swear, the Hulk joke was timely when we started.) Now, finally, she is able to give her interview, and here it is!
Girl-Wonder.org: What’s your history with comics?
‘I was a pre-school fangirl! Complete with a pillow case tied around my neck as a cape, and death-defying leaps off the porch in pursuit of bad guys (which usually just resulted in crushing my mother’s flowers).
‘I read comics as wee child, both new ones I purchased with my practically non-existent allowance, and the ones I inherited from my father. (And boy, do I ever regret taking my crayons to those Silver Age books. I guess it was important to me at the time that all the women have dark hair like I did, and I was a little too young to fully appreciate the prospect of retiring early on the proceeds from my comic collection.) I was also a huge fan of any and all comic-related television shows such as Batman, The Incredible Hulk, and Wonder Woman. I had superhero-themed Halloween costumes, birthday cakes, the works.
‘Then I became a teenager, discovered punk rock and hair dye, and focused much of my attention elsewhere for several years. I came back to comics briefly in the early 90s (I still have the hologram covers to show for it), then drifted away again until about seven years ago, and have been a steady reader ever since.
‘I’ve attended a few cons, but I generally find them too expensive and too crowded. I work part time at my local comic shop, which usually fills any need I might have to be in the same room with other people who read comics.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Prior to thong-a-palooza, how would you describe your interaction with comics-fandom?
‘I would characterize myself as more an observer than a participant, because I tend to be out of step with fandom both in taste (I would not walk across hot coals to read Grant Morrison’s grocery list) and timing (my big Batverse phase pre-dated the DCU fandom explosion on LiveJournal, so when I wanted to talk about that stuff, no one else cared, and then by the time they did, I’d moved on). And because I tend to get behind in my reading, I don’t participate in discussion as much as I once did. Reading a book two weeks after it comes out is practically an eternity in Internet time.
‘I used to regularly post reviews of the books as I read them, but after a while you couldn’t swing a temporarily dead superhero without hitting a blog full of reviews, and it became a wall of white noise. I do still discuss comics, post news and pictures, and pimp things I like, but my days of steady reviewing are over.
Girl-Wonder.org: What was your view of comics-fandom as a gendered space?
‘When I first started poking around on the Internet for other comic book fans, the pattern I immediately noticed was that men outnumbered women on the discussion boards, while the opposite was true in fan fiction-focused spaces. It took me a bit to come around to the idea of reading fan fiction, so I initially floundered about on the message boards, not making much of a connection to anyone, feeling put off by the spelling-impaired hostility that passed for conversation.
‘Then I stumbled across a fan fiction archive that had a message board, and lo and behold, it was full of women talking about comics. The topics ranged from the serious and thought-provoking to the completely shallow, and we certainly did our share of complaining about the books (what fan doesn’t?), but we did it without insulting each other at every turn. That was the first place I interacted regularly with other comic book fans, and had fun doing it.
‘Not long after that, I opened an account at LiveJournal, which was intended to be more of an online diary than anything else. As luck would have it, shortly thereafter a sea change resulted in a large fannish migration to LJ, and it’s been my base of operations ever since. I like it there. It tends to be a female-friendly, civilized place; we certainly argue, and we disagree all the time, but we don’t threaten to, you know, rape each other over a difference of opinion.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Has [your view of fandom as a gendered space] changed? If so, how?
‘The biggest change, and the one having the most noticeable impact, is the explosion of women blogging about comics, and doing it from a feminist point of view. This has led, predictably, to an increase in the backlash associated with that kind of commentary. […] I think Lester Q. Fanboy was okay with us playing in his sandbox, and even critiquing comics, until we began critiquing them in relation to ourselves. Saying you think a story line sucked might spark a debate, but saying a story line treated a certain group badly causes a whole different kind of uproar.
‘Has there been progress in bringing those issues to light, and in getting them addressed? Absolutely, on both creator and fan level. But for every person who has had their mind opened, and realized that just because something has always been a certain way doesn’t mean it’s the best way, there’s another person digging in their heels and refusing to be enlightened.
‘Because of this polarization, because of the rising level of resentment, I think some forums are even less welcoming to women now than they previously were.
‘On the plus side, we don’t need those forums. The number of fannish spaces welcoming or catering specifically to women is increasing every day. And the dialog is there. People are bringing attention to feminist issues, and the Powers That Be notice. They might dismiss it publicly, but they notice, and in some cases are forced to acknowledge it. (I mean, really. The fact that Joe Quesada had to make a statement to the press about the Mary Jane statue because of something I said in my blog? That will never stop being funny.)’
Girl-Wonder.org: Tell me about any positive experiences you’ve had with men involved with comics.
‘One thing I find really interesting is how many great guy friends I made as a result of the MJ kerfuffle. I’m sure those lovely trolls who spent days sliming around in my journal during that time would like to think I made an enemy out of every comic fan with a Y chromosome, but that’s just not true. I actually have way more men on my LiveJournal friends list now than I did before.
‘And I like it. I like seeing what interests them and what makes them angry, and I like having proof, right there on my screen, that fanboys and fangirls can get along.
‘And of course I have to mention Craig, who co-owns the shop I work at (Neptune Comics plug plug). Not only is he a really nice guy who runs a really great shop, he gave me a job. :)’
Girl-Wonder.org: Do you remember your first reaction to the image of the Mary Jane Comiquette released by Sideshow?
‘I think it was a combination of ‘Ugh!’ and ‘Is this seriously official merchandise?’ I couldn’t believe it was real, because it was so over the top. The pose, the thong, the laundry. It looked to me like the sort of thing you see on a custom figures forum, something some dude made for his own personal enjoyment (the kind of personal enjoyment you don’t want to know or think about). The fact that it was a licensed product–unbelievable.’
Girl-Wonder.org: What kind of reaction were you expecting when you posted about it on your blog?
‘That some people on my friends list would comment, we’d talk about how incredibly over-the-top it was, and life would go on. I didn’t think it would be any different from any other post I’ve made.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Your post seemed to get linked all over the place. What was your impression of the people who linked to it?
‘In the beginning, it was mainly women who were as put off by the statue as I was. As word spread, and the gender divide widened, the one thing everyone had in common was that they felt very strongly about it, but the longer it went on, the fewer people seemed to actually understand what was going on. I saw a lot of ‘This bitch wants to ban sexy statues!’ and the like. Yes, that was exactly what I was saying. Except where I wasn’t saying that at all.
‘So, a lot of hysteria, a lot of really repugnant commentary. But also a lot of indignation from both men and women who were able to spot a nasty gender stereotype when they saw it. Strong reactions, either way.’
Girl-Wonder.org: What kind of audiences did it find?
‘That was probably the most surprising thing–the level of interest from people who normally don’t give a passing thought to comic books. It was immediately evident that it had struck a chord with women outside comics fandom, because the comments and the linking were coming from all over LiveJournal. It then made a similar jump outside LJ, where it went from a comic website topic to being featured on feminist blogs, and then to MSNBC, Fox News, and EW.com.
‘Some people scoffed at the attention it got, calling it a slow news day thing (and I don’t discount that completely), but I think the defenders of the statue really, truly don’t understand what something like the Mary Jane comiquette looks like to a person who isn’t in comics fandom. Comic fans are so used to seeing things like it (and worse), that they’ve lost the ability to see it from an outsider’s perspective. And that’s part of the reason why it got so much attention–for someone who has never heard of Lady Death, and thinks manga is a fruit, that statue was a shock.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Talk about the response your post got. (Any hilarious trolls you want to share?)
‘Well, the charming fellow who suggested some nice anal rape would straighten me out was one to remember.
‘While the threats and the insults were by no means pleasant, I couldn’t have asked for the trolls to prove my point any more thoroughly than they did. ‘Degrading and sexist images are not harmful! They don’t have any affect on society as a whole! And to prove it, I will make degrading and sexist statements about you! Wherever could I have learned that’s acceptable behavior?’
‘I mean, ya gotta admire the level of cluelessness being displayed there. It’s something you probably have to work on full-time in order to keep it so perfectly honed and impenetrable to logic.
‘Toward the end, people began sort of boggling in general at just how nastily I was being treated and just how long the whole thing was going on, and I did get a nice wave of ‘hang in there!’ comments, which countered the trolls quite nicely. The support that came pouring out was phenomenal. I’m far from a Pollyanna about fandom, and I think sometimes we treat each other horribly, but when the chips are down, man, you can count on the fans.’
Girl-Wonder.org: How long did it take before people stopped popping up to comment?
‘About two and a half months.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Has the reaction to your MJ post affected what and how you post on the internet?
‘Not really. Previous to this I had a very low-drama internet personality (no, really, I swear! That’s why it’s so funny that I still get singled out as an example of strident feminist harpies who bitch about everything!), so there was really no profile to lower or anything of that sort.’
Girl-Wonder.org: Has it affected your view of fandom?
‘It’s reinforced my belief that a fuss needs to be made. The images we see and the things we read do make a difference, and they definitely influence how we see the world around us, and the way we treat the people we share it with. I don’t think anyone can look at the things that were said to me in that post and deny that.
‘Am I trying to suck the fun out of everything? No. But I personally have a hard time taking enjoyment from something that I know offends or demeans a specific group of people. I don’t think the status of something as entertainment gives it a pass on offensiveness.
‘The majority of our entertainment is geared toward the white, heterosexual male gaze. It’s so pervasive, and has been like this for so long, that most of us don’t even realize it. I didn’t realize it for years, and I can completely understand why someone wouldn’t notice the bias–it’s what we’re taught to like and identify with from the time we’re young children. I don’t blame someone for not realizing it, if it’s never been pointed out to them.
‘But once someone points it out, well, that’s your cue to pick up the ball and run with it. Take an honest look, ask yourself some hard questions, consider what it might feel like to be on the other side.
‘I’ve been in that position, too, and still find myself there. Just because I’m a woman doesn’t mean I’m exempt from perpetuating sexism, and I can be just as thick-headed about spotting racism and homophobia as the next straight, white person. So don’t think I don’t know how it feels to have to accept an ugly truth about something you enjoy–I have to deal with it, too. It’s hard, and it sucks, and it means you have to face unpleasant things about yourself and about the things you like, and I absolutely respect anyone who has done it, because I know how difficult it is.
‘I don’t always agree with accusations of sexism or racism or any other ism, but I always do consider them, and if I disagree, I take an extra second to think about why I’m reacting the way I am, and ask myself some questions.
‘1) Am I just being cranky because someone criticized something I like?
‘2) Do I feel like I’m being called a sexist/racist/homophobe because I like something that has sexist/racist/homophobic overtones?
‘If the answer to either of those questions is yes, then I know I’ve got my head up my ass and I need to remove it.
‘And sometimes… well, sometimes I know the complaints are valid, and I have to suck it up and deal with the reality of that.
‘Here’s what I know: liking things that other people find offensive doesn’t automatically make you a bad person. Threatening to rape or kill someone just because they don’t like those same things? Makes you a very bad person.
‘Being active in comics fandom on the Internet is sort of like a form of role play, where you get to choose your own level of lameness. Some people are incredibly lame, some people are barely lame at all. Aspire to be less lame, is what I’m saying. It’s totally doable, and we all have things we could work on in that respect.’
Girl-Wonder.org: If you could shoot one Marvel character into space, who would it be?
‘Sabretooth. Yes, I know he’s currently in that spoilery state where Jeph Loeb put him, but we don’t really believe that’s permanent, do we? I’d love for it to last forever, though, because every time he shows up, there’s a woman in peril. (Usually a woman connected to Wolverine, and even writers I like to think are above that kind of thing fall into that trap. I’m looking at you, Greg Rucka.)
‘X-Men #28 hits the trifecta in that respect. Sabretooth attacks Jubilee in a dream sequence, overpowers Pyslocke, and is shown threatening Jean Grey on the cover. Jean eventually owns his ass at the end of the book, but the sheer number of pages devoted to portraying Sabes as a particularly potent source of fear and physical violence for the X-women is pretty telling.
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‘Feminist concerns aside, the Sabretooth-as-threat-to-all-women plot was already over-used years ago, and no matter what they do to him, writers keep bringing him back to do it again. Obviously, the only way to stop it is to shoot him into space. Though that didn’t work so well with the Hulk…’
Girl-Wonder.org: Your dream comic: Who draws it? Who writes it? What’s the solicit?
‘The Adventures of Mary Marvel, written and drawn by Jeff Smith.
‘’If you thought the Monster Society of Evil was bad, that’s nothing compared to grade-school teachers and know-it-all brothers! Mary Marvel lets the bad guys have it, shows her brother Billy just how tough girls can be, and somehow gets her homework done, too, in this new, ongoing monthly book that picks up where the Monster Society of Evil series left off.’

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How not to write a hero

I’m not sure how long this is going to be, so I’m going to make it easy for those of y’all reading and tell you my point right up front. Ready? Here it goes:
Heroes shouldn’t be built on fear, or on all the niggling insecurities that can make us poor, workaday humans sometimes behave like pricks to our fellow humans. Heroes, one hopes, are made of the best parts of ourselves, our higher urges, our dreams, and that which is left once we strip away all of the things which make us too afraid to step in when injustice occurs.
Can we agree with that? Can you roll with me for a little while?
I hope so, because this is where I’m going to lose a whole bunch of you:
Frank Miller doesn’t write about heroes. Frank Miller kind of misses the point entirely.
You’re protesting already, I know. I can hear you heading to your bookshelves and longboxes, and you’ve got a bone to pick with me. Luckily, none of you can get into my apartment, so I’m just going to keep talking.

There’s something which always gets to me when I see someone talking about all the good Miller has done for the comics industry, about how much his vision has helped shape the world of comics and how grateful we should all be that he ever deigned to turn that unique vision of his toward superheroes: It doesn’t work.
It doesn’t, for lack of a better term, fit.
Now, I think we can all agree that Bruce Wayne has just a few issues. Part of the charm, the mystique of Batman is that he’s not like the other kids. His parents die, and, instead of seeking therapy for his rage and pain, he dresses up like a giant Bat and heads out to fight crime, so that no one else will ever have to feel the way he does each and every day.
However, I’d like to point out that there are two parts there. Not one. He isn’t just out there to fight crime, he’s out there to expiate his suffering by protecting other people from it. For all that he’s made himself out to be as terrifying as he possibly can, Bruce recognizes that that’s only part of the job.
I could say something about this being where Robin comes in, and I could point to various works by people ranging from Darwyn Cooke to Alan Grant to Chuck Dixon while I’m doing it, but this is only tangentially my point.
My point is that, when you start out with fear and the propagation of fear, the best you can say is that you’re only approaching part of the problem.
Let’s drift astray for a moment. After all, Miller had his influences, too, and if John D. MacDonald wasn’t one of them, I’d be a little shocked. What you need to know is that MacDonald wrote a lot of books known for their rollicking action and gritty — that is to say, possessing of grit — protagonists and excitingly sleazy locales.
Perhaps his most famous protagonist was one Travis McGee, the sort of man who never started a fight, but by damn he would finish it. He didn’t go looking for trouble, but it always seemed to find him. Often, a beautiful woman was wrapped up in that trouble, and if one thing were to lead to another, well, that was how the world worked.
And if that beautiful woman got herself raped and/or murdered during the course of that trouble, well, that was how the world worked, too. The important thing is that McGee cleaned up that mess, and went back to his solitary existence while he waited for the world to turn a certain way again.
Of course, Batman doesn’t wait for trouble to find him –
Er, except for how that’s the way DKR kicks off. And Carrie was much younger than the women in — er. We can certainly all agree that rape and murder was only threatened!
Now, see, I rather liked DKR the first couple of times I read it. There are quite a lot of things I find interesting and even enjoyable about the genre of noir, and clearly Miller felt the same. There’s even a sort of logic to it: If Batman is the world’s greatest detective, then shouldn’t there be more detective stories about him?
Certainly, there’s room for that sort of thing, but, you know what? Not all that much.
Noir is built, in part, on dozens of detective types who wait for trouble to walk in the door — hopefully on a pair of long, long legs — who have a love-hate relationship with the grim and dangerous cities in which they live, who are, in the end, just doing their best to get along. There are any number of things which scare these heroes, and often they will do their best to avoid those things — until, of course, something affects their personal lives deeply enough that they must face those fears.
There’s some Batman in there — let’s remember the milieu in which Batman was born — but that’s just the problem:
It’s only some of him.
Batman is also Bruce Wayne, the president and CEO of Wayne Enterprises and a philanthropist. We could throw ‘playboy’ in there, but that’s only part of the act. What isn’t part of the act is the fact that Bruce Wayne’s response to that which frightens him — whether it’s a living being or the crushing weight of a problematic city — is most assuredly not to hole himself up and attempt to live a quiet life away from the scary thing.
What also isn’t a part of the act — and hasn’t been since 1940 — is the rather important part of Bruce who can’t stand to let anyone suffer, and who identifies rather strongly with hopeful, cheerful, loving young people… and then turns them into vigilantes.
This still isn’t about Robin, but, you know, I’m just going to say this and have done: You can have a Batman without a Robin, but, if you do, you really only have part of the story. Deal with it.
Of course, Miller gave us a Robin, too, which was great. She even stayed Robin until Miller decided that she was old enough for Batman to be screwing her. I’m going to leave that alone, save to mention how interesting it is that so many of Miller’s grim, gritty, half-broken, loner, male protagonists wind up with teenaged girls as lovers.
We all have our tropes.
In any event, let’s take a closer look at that Bruce Wayne of Miller’s. It’s rather nice that Carrie helps Bruce take an interest, once more, in the wider world, but — really. Should she have had to?
If Batman is supposed to be a hero — and I really do hope we’re all on the same page about that — then shouldn’t he have been out there, anyway? Of course, part of what makes Batman fascinating is that he’s ‘just’ a brilliant, dedicated human being, and all human beings are subject to moments of pain and fear, but, well, heroes are supposed to stand a little taller than that. This is not to say that I don’t think Bruce should’ve been allowed time and space to grieve after the loss of his Robin, or the space to consider the question of his own mortality.
It’s just that the Mission — such as it’s been defined — does not change. Heroism means getting up again, no matter how much it hurts, and no matter how terrifying the prospect must be.
There’s a certain selfish cowardice — something far, far beyond ‘enlightened self-interest’ — which is all but hardwired into the incautiously written noir protagonist. A certain flaw built of fear and pain — they won’t let the world hurt them (anymore). They know ‘better.’ And, of course, they get hurt just the same — usually by that gam-tastic trouble — but they move on, alone and perhaps a little bit ‘wiser’ — for values of ‘wisdom’ which involve a decidedly non-global variety of thought.
Noir protagonists, as a rule, tend to have something against sticking their necks out. Just because we don’t normally see the dozens upon dozens of moments of injustice they pass by every day on their way to the next bottle and/or adultery case doesn’t mean they aren’t happening.
Are you seeing those heartless streets of Gotham?
Should you be? Think about it.
Gotham may have a lot in common with certain sections of L.A., Miami, and all of those other noir backdrops, but it isn’t the only city in the world. Or the universe, for that matter.
The DC universe. You know the one I’m talking about — the one with all of those brightly-colored other heroes, and a Justice League, and all of the various ways in which, if Bruce Wayne is — play that tiny violin, maestro! — all alone, it’s only because he had to work at it. Philip Marlowe didn’t have a League of Superdetectives to fall back on, and work with, and advise. Rick Blaine was part of no one’s World’s Finest.
That’s okay — they didn’t have to be. Those aren’t the sorts of stories they were created for.
Batman… well, all right. I know as well as you do that Batman, as created, probably had a lot more to do with Marlowe than not. That didn’t last for very long, however; and ultimately, since we’re talking about a larger universe which evolved into something quite different from what Kane was originally thinking about, that’s a good thing.
Anti-heroes and other noir protagonists aren’t supposed to care about reducing the overall level of suffering in the world. It’s too complicated, and, in their worlds, no good deed does go unpunished. I could quibble — and I really, really do — about the role of women in those worlds, but, in the end, I’m only talking about them here in the hopes that people reading this will realize that there’s a big difference between there and here.
The DCU. Where Heroes Live. Remember that one?
I do, and I hold it pretty damned close to my heart, thank you very much. And this is where Miller lost me. In DKR/DKSA, the very idea of a larger, more global heroism is rather roundly discounted — or am I the only one who remembers that rather deeply mocking and not just a little homophobic treatment of Superman?
At best, the idea there is that Superman doesn’t live in the ‘real world,’ and never mind the fact that Batman isn’t supposed to, either.
And also never mind the fact that what Miller calls the ‘real world’ is just as much of a long-standing fictional ideal as anything else. There’s a value judgment there, and a rock-solid belief that one brand of deeply romantic fiction — oh, won’t anyone save Mr. McGee from another heartbreak? The last ten raped and murdered female characters really got to him! — is, somehow, superior to another.
This is where I start getting a little testy. I mentioned the selfishness inherent to this sort of protagonist, but it’s really the romance that twists my undergarments into interesting shapes.
As with Marlowe, Blaine, McGee, and all of the others, we, as readers, are supposed to — without qualm — surrender our sympathies and our vaguer, more numinous, and more difficult-to-define identifications to this Batman who is capable of just letting the world fall apart around him, just because he has been hurt in the past.
We’re supposed to both be with him and be him as he finally gets off his lard ass and tries to do something worthwhile, and to do it his way — with neither sympathy nor pause. We’re supposed to agree with him that the best response to the world’s pain is a punch to the face — or a murder.
Miller makes it easy. He tells us and shows us, time and again, that this broken shell of a walking flaw is, in fact, Better than everyone else. He’s stronger and he’s smarter. He’s harder and he’s colder — but Miller has shown us that he has to be that way. The world he lives in — increasing in difference from the actual DCU exponentially — demands it, and so Batman will be it.
If it’s a world built on fear and pain, then, well, Batman will be scarier than everything else and will damned well inflict more pain. If you think about it a little bit, you can see the cheat in there.
Can’t you?
Let me try to say it another way: If you want to make your character seem smart, then you could, if you weren’t very much of a writer, make everyone else very, very dumb. If you want to make your character seem strong, then you could, if you weren’t very much of a writer, surround that character with people who fall apart at the slightest stress. If you want to make your character look like a hero…
Well.
In Miller’s world, no one’s suffering is eased without the clenched fist. (One wonders, from time to time, why that fist wasn’t ever drawn with a fasces, but subtlety pops up in the strangest places, sometimes.) Anyone with a different point of view is shown to be — at best — ineffectual. Anyone who tries to live a different way is either mocked or pilloried.
Intellectualism — you know, that thing without which the principles of detection can’t exist — is shown only in its most worthless, poisonous, and damaging form, as is compassion and anything — anything at all — which could be labeled liberalism.
In this world, the most stunted emotional troglodyte walks very tall, indeed.
And oh, it’s romantic, isn’t it? If you set aside the physical strength and the various toys only vast amounts of money can buy, practically anyone could be Miller’s Batman. All you need is rage, and fear, and pain. Everything else is frippery — if it isn’t something which will get you in trouble in that world. That world, when you get right down to it, is a very simple place to live. If anything, the villains are even easier to spot than they are in the actual DCU — many of them, quite helpfully, are no longer entirely human. There’s none of that complicated business which tends to happen in any place where actual humans congregate, either –
Or did any of you actually think Carrie, as Miller wrote her, would ever question the man’s gender politics? What do you think would happen to her if she ever decided to be a woman, rather than a ‘girl?’ Anyone?
There’s something almost freeing about it all, isn’t there? After all, characters like Superman are much friendlier, much nicer than practically anyone else in the whole world. That’s damned near impossible to live up to — and why should you try?
In the end, Miller’s world is just another male fantasy, and one not especially alien to the mind which gave us things like Gor. Instead of trolls, there are mutants. Instead of sensually grateful slave girls, there’s a Catgirl. Instead of ineffectual and corrupt kings and grand viziers, there are politicians and police officers. Everything’s been updated and coated with a nicely modern layer of sleaze, but nothing is very different.
The protagonist, in the end, stands alone, but that’s okay — he doesn’t need anyone else. He’s strong. He’s secure in his rather limited definition of masculinity. Somewhere — a little beneath, a little behind — there may be a female who is fully on-board with her role, which is, of course, to shore up the protagonist through her essential weakness and inability to effect any large degree of change. If you want to make a man seem masterful, then why not surround him with slaves? All of that complicated and annoyingly think-y stuff is happening in another country –
And, besides, Robin is dead.
I’m not here to say that there isn’t room for that sort of story — everyone needs a fantasy to cling to, and there are far worse things which can be done with loneliness and fear than just writing a comic — but I hope, at this point, that I’ve made it clear that this isn’t the sort of thing which leads to a good story about heroes.
Heroes don’t have the luxury of cutting everyone else off at the knees to make themselves look taller, and, yes, sometimes heroes have to think of ways to get things done which don’t involve either murder or ‘just’ the worst sorts of brutality. Heroes are bigger than that. Heroes are smarter than that.
Heroes can and do make mistakes, and have horrible things happen to them either because of those mistakes, or just because they’re heroes — but they don’t lay down the fight. Heroes understand that the worlds they live in are not perfect — not just as a reason for them to go out there and fight, but as a reason for them to think about what they’re doing and why.
Heroes are the light in the darkness, and the hope we have for a better tomorrow.
Heroes understand that, in the end, bringing themselves down to the level of the bad guys in order to win a fight is just another way that the light can be dimmed.
Heroes understand that there are just as many ways to increase the light in the world as there are to dim it, and that, often, it’s far better to reach with an open hand than to strike with a closed fist.
Heroes
Heroes know full well that they aren’t the only heroes in the world, and that working together for that better tomorrow is always, always the better option.
Now, it seems to me that these last few paragraphs have taken us rather far away from the Millerverse. But the DCU… is close enough to touch.

Missing the Punchline

You see what they did here?
My approach to reading the Marvel and DC solicitations this month was a little different than previous months. This time around, it wasn’t the overhyping text or vague promises of importance that I focused on, it was the covers that really had my attention … after the MJ zombie and Heroes for Hire hentai bruhahas over the last few weeks, I looked at all the images and wondered, ‘So what cover’s going to drive people nuts this time?’
Apparently I’m not the only person thinking about this, as I had several people point out to me some covers that are possible contenders for ‘Internet controversy of the moment.’ I’ll let you guys decide which one we should freak out over, if any. Place your bets and let’s spin the wheel…
My first thought on reading it was… well, okay. My first thought was: I really wish I’d seen this cover before using up my monthly quota of dinosaur/sodomy jokes.
But my second thought was, Oooooo. Clever.
There is currently a bit of backlash against feminist comics bloggers, but it’s pretty obvious where most of it is coming from.
This article, however, is subtle, and the message is hidden underneath a layer of humour. (I do love humour it’s a great weapon. The initial response of an audience is to align themselves with the joke teller, because, hey! Jokes are a social thing, and not laughing at the punchline is akin to admitting that we don’t belong ‘round these parts. The last thing we want to admit to being is humourless.
And there’s a social contract there. By laughing, we agree to dismiss what the joke teller is telling us to dismiss. We agree to agree with what they aren’t saying. We are laughing after all, and the second to last thing we want to admit to being is dishonest. )
Here’s the underlying message in the article:
Feminists bloggers ‘freak out’ that is, they are not rational in their response to issues they deem objectionable.
The images that feminist bloggers choose to respond to are as random as a game of chance.
Feminist outrage is in fact a game – and it is a game for the benefit of spectators, rather than one for participants. The discussions are best understood as for the amusement of the people watching from the outside.
JK Parkin positions him or herself and any rational reader – as outside (and dismissive of) the sphere of feminist comics debate, and does so in a manner to make the reader uncomfortable with objecting to that categorization.
See what I mean? Clever.

An Open Letter to Misty Lee

Dear Ms. Lee,
In Episode Four of ‘Almost Live with Paul and Misty,’ broadcast on June fifth, you say
And you know, also, someone raised the point in, I don’t know if it was in a forum I was reading but it’s something I’ve heard a million times before – but usually, the strongest and loudest protest over sexy things come from ugly fat girls. And now I don’t necessarily agree with that and I’m probably going to get some awesome flame mail as a result of this, but as somebody who’s relatively secure in her sexuality – I don’t think I’m the hottest broad out walking around – I definitely don’t think I compare to some of these comic book chicks – but that doesn’t mean that I don’t like to look at ‘em. I find the feminine form very appealing and I’m not at all offended by that…
I was raised to believe that the weight and appearance of a person were irrelevant to the justice of their argument, but I am willing to defer to the customs of your people and have recorded the following:

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Sincerely, the Editor.