July 29, 2011

Yes, Actually, I Do

Filed under: Comics,conventions,Gender,Women in comics — Poison Ivory @ 11:53 am

By now the company-wide relaunch of all of DC’s titles shouldn’t be news to anyone in comics fandom, nor should the fact that with the reshuffling around of talent, DC has gone from women making up 12% of their credited creators to 1%. This has, understandably, raised a lot of concerns with fans, several of whom – male and female – broached those concerns at last week’s San Diego Comic Con, where they were met with deflection, jokes from male creators, and a bewildering amount of hostility from Co-Publisher Dan DiDio, who demanded to know who they should have hired.

And here’s the thing: several popular female creators were approached to take part in the relaunch, like Kelly Sue DeConnick, Marjorie M. Liu, and Rebekah Isaacs. Probably more were approached or submitted pitches that we haven’t heard about. Maybe a lot more. So yeah, I don’t entirely blame DiDio for being frustrated, if he tried to get female talent, was unable to for various reasons, and is now being taken to task for it.

But 2 women to 105 men is a pretty hefty imbalance. And I doubt 103 women were approached and turned DC down.

I’ve been reading a lot about this and the comment I keep seeing is “What do you want, a quota?” People critiquing the hiring decisions are quick to deny that they want a quota and instead offer lists of female writers and artists they’d like to see in the relaunch: “No, I don’t want a quota, but how about Amanda Conner?”

I’ll say it: I want a quota.

This is not to say that I want DC to grab the first ten women who walk by the office and give them jobs writing and drawing comics. And I’m aware that DC doesn’t hire people who haven’t already established themselves in some way, and with good reason. Top publishers don’t take unsolicited talent. (Despite Grant Morrison’s implication that you can simply “send in your stuff” to DC and be considered.)

I’m also aware that there are far more men working in the comic book industry than women. And I would assume that there are more men trying to break into the comic book industry than women, though of course it’s nearly impossible to know the stats on that. So if there’s one writing job and 9 out of 10 of the people gunning for it are male, odds are it’s going to go to a dude.

But it’s a self-perpetuating cycle. The reason there are more men trying to break into comics is because comics are still perceived as being Not For Girls. Because the industry is already male-dominated. Because the comics are mostly about (straight, white, cisgendered, able-bodied) men. Because the industry markets itself to men. So women consume manga and independent comics and webcomics, and the superhero comic book industry ignores that audience – and its potential revenue.

That doesn’t mean that there aren’t women trying to break into superhero comics. It just means that there are fewer women trying to break into superhero comics, because they’ve been told so often – by the marketing tactics, by the covers, by the stories from the industry, by being mocked and dismissed at conventions – that superhero comics are Not For Girls.

But as Laura Hudson points out beautifully, a more diverse stable of creators leads to better comics. Plus, simply by appealing to women – who, you know, make up half of the world – DC has the opportunity to nearly double their revenue. Twice as much money! Who doesn’t want that?

If DC wants to rectify their skewed gender ratio even a little, they need to start by mining that small pool of aspiring women more heavily than the larger pool of male creators. Again, I’m not saying DC should hire women at random or compromise their standards. But here’s a thought: why not open up a month-long call for submissions from female writers and artists who’d like to break into the industry but haven’t quite gotten there yet? Female artists can send in portfolios; female writers, pitches and scripts. Sure, you’ll have to wade through a lot of dross, but that’s what interns are for!

I’m not suggesting putting an untried artist on Detective Comics right off the (forgive me) bat. Just let her get her foot in the door. Hire female artists as inkers as a stepping stone to them becoming pencillers. Give female writers one-shots and miniseries as trial runs, or backup strips. Give women who don’t necessarily write or draw in the house style a chance, as Marvel did with Girl Comics.

And if you do that, if you open that door for women and tell them that you want to see what they can do – and if you look at what they can do in good faith, with the intention of finding creators to hire among them – you can easily bump that 1% up to 5%. Or 10%. Would I love to see 50% of the creative credits on DC’s titles taken by women? Of course. But even 10%, aggressively sought after, would make a difference to the market, and be an enormous show of goodwill to fans everywhere who are concerned about the current gender ratio.

Dan DiDio was asked if DC was committed to hiring more women. He didn’t exactly answer the question (“I’m committed to hiring the absolute best writers and artists.”), but if the answer is yes, then they should show that commitment by actually hiring more women.

And if the answer is no, then they should say so, and we can all stop wasting our time.


  1. Ah ha! I knew this reminded me of something. A few months ago, Dan Harmon (creator of NBC’s “Community”) did an interview with the AV Club where he talked about how the NBC programming head actually gave him a quota and said his writing staff had be half women:

    DH: It was conscious on the part of [former NBC programming head] Angela Bromstad, before she left NBC. Angela said, “Get more women on your staff. Make it half women.” I remember going, “Are you fucking kidding me?” to myself. “Okay, I got a sitcom, and this is as far as you go,” because I’ve just been told that half of my staff needs to be a quota hire. From the mouths of bureaucrats come the seeds of great things. I dug extra hard. You find somebody like Hilary Winston. You find people later like [Emily] Cutler and [Karey] Dornetto.

    They’re harder to find. It’s definitely not because women ain’t funny, because I’m finding the opposite. It’s because there’s fewer of them. The statistical probability of picking up a shitty script, it’s compounded for women. There’s the same percentage of genius happening in both genders, but there’s less women writing scripts and out there looking for the job. So you dig a little extra-hard, and you end up with a staff that took a few extra meetings and a few extra shitty scripts to read. Now you have a staff that is just as good as the staff you would have had, but happens to be half women. And it seems like the greatest thing in the world, because the world is half women. And the male writers across the board, from top to bottom, in their most private moments drinking with me, when they’re fully licensed to be as misogynist, reactive, old-boy-network as they want, all they can say is, “This turned out to be a great thing.”

    There’s more here, where he talks about how this should have been common sense from the get-go, and having more perspectives does, indeed, make the writing better! (Though I think a little of the gender/race discussion gets problematic.) Point is: comedy is another whole genre where there’s been a long cultural bias against women getting involved, and an area that’s been a huge boy’s club for generations, but where people are figuring out that hey, that’s actually a really stupid way to approach things and that letting the numbers shake out more evenly between genders improves, oh, the entire finished product. Even when it starts out with quota hires and having to slog through some crap to find the people who are good.

    Comment by allreb — July 29, 2011 @ 2:36 pm

  2. D’oh. Sorry for the borked HTML.

    Comment by allreb — July 29, 2011 @ 2:37 pm

  3. This. Yes. I want a quota already, because there is *already* a quota in place – for white male writers.

    Superhero fans are depressingly apologetic and compromising about their social equality desires. We shouldn’t be apologizing, backing down from wanting affirmative action in the industry. Because it’s in an embarrassing state, and don’t we *want* to not be embarrassed about that state anymore?

    Comment by Michelle — July 30, 2011 @ 9:14 am

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